EACRC 2019-2021: Meeting Summaries

For a brief record of what was discussed at the EACRC meetings from 2019 to 2021, review the meeting summaries below.

Meeting Summary for May 10, 2019

Meeting objectives

To discuss how the Committee will implement its mandate to improve regulatory competitiveness in Canada and support the modernization of Canada’s regulatory system
To consider the second round of Regulatory Reviews

Participants: Laura Jones (Chair), Catherine Beaudry, Stewart Elgie, Ginny Flood, Anne Fowlie, Don Mercer, Keith Mussar

Regrets: Nancy Olewiler

Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat: Erin O’Gorman, Tina Green, Jeannine Ritchot, Kyle Burns, Lindsay Wild, Claire Penny, Ian Allan, Allison Krogh

Introductory remarks

The Chair welcomed Committee members to their first meeting and highlighted the important role of this new body.

Visioning session

Members participated in a visioning session to identify themes that will guide the work of the Committee, including:

further improving the culture between government and stakeholders
building trust by having all relevant perspectives in the room, focusing on evidence, and drawing from the best regulatory practices both domestically and internationally
simplifying processes while pursuing regulatory excellence
recognizing the interconnections between regulatory issues and promoting collaborative solutions
examining the issue of the cumulative impact of regulations across jurisdictions

Proposed sectors and themes for the second round of Regulatory Reviews

The Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat presented an overview of the targeted Regulatory Reviews, including:

objectives, outcomes and lessons learned from the first round of reviews
criteria used for identifying potential sectors and themes
summaries of the potential sectors and themes for the next round of reviews based on stakeholder feedback, recommendations from the Economic Strategy Tables, and departmental input

Working lunch

John Knubley, Deputy Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada (ISED), and Lorraine Mitchelmore, former CEO of Enlighten Innovations, and Chair of the Resource of the Future Economic Strategy Table, situated the Committee’s work within broader Government of Canada initiatives to advance economic growth and innovation. The Committee was encouraged to focus on:

regulations as an enabler of innovation and economic growth
improving efficiency and effectiveness with better risk management
aligning with global best practices
embedding a collaborative approach between industry, academics and regulators
making regulatory excellence a competitive advantage for Canada

Overview and lessons learned from the first round of sectoral reviews

The Deputy Ministers of Health Canada and Transport Canada, as well as the President of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, shared their perspectives on the first round of Regulatory Reviews with the Committee. Key points raised included:

Regulatory Reviews require clear scoping, considerable effort and coordination to ensure positive outcomes
focused efforts can identify greater use of risk-based approaches, identify tools to drive innovation, and design agile regulatory frameworks that can keep pace with changing technology and the economy

Second round of Regulatory Reviews

Members identified three areas that they would recommend for the next round of Regulatory Reviews:

digitalization and technology-neutral regulations
clean technology
international standards

Members noted that as the sectors and themes are broad, they will each need to be scoped appropriately in order to address stakeholder issues and identify tangible solutions.

Follow-Up Meeting Summary for May 22, 2019

Meeting objectives

Committee agrees to a proposed list of recommendations on sectors or themes for the second round of Regulatory Reviews
Committee provides feedback on a draft of the letter to the President of the Treasury Board
Committee provides feedback on the agenda for the next in-person meeting

Participants: Laura Jones (Chair), Catherine Beaudry, Stewart Elgie, Ginny Flood, Anne Fowlie, Don Mercer, Keith Mussar

Regrets: Nancy Olewiler

Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat: Jeannine Ritchot, Kyle Burns, Lindsay Wild, Claire Penny, Ian Allan, Allison Krogh, Hélène Lowell, Christopher Lee

Introduction and roundtable

Members were pleased with the diversity of perspectives expressed at their first meeting on May 10, 2019, and confirmed their commitment to considering the interests and expectations of all members in their deliberations.

Draft letter to the President

Members came to consensus on recommending three sectors and themes for the next round of Regulatory Reviews, which are digitalization and technology-neutral regulations, clean technology, and international standards. In coming to consensus on the sectors and themes, members noted:

digitalization could provide opportunities to modernize and simplify regulatory interactions to the benefit of all Canadians
clean technology should include clean innovation, competitiveness and demand for new regulatory technologies
an international standards review is an opportunity for Canada to advance its strategic leadership in the development of such standards
the following themes would be included in the letter: culture change, regulatory excellence, transparency and trust, inclusiveness, a systems approach, and overlapping regulations

Next steps

The Chair will update the letter and seek members’ final review and approval.
The next scheduled meeting will be June 25 and 26, 2019, and will focus on competitiveness.

Meeting Summary for June 25 and 26, 2019

Meeting objectives

to identify key recommendations for advancing competitiveness in Canada’s regulatory framework
to provide advice on methods to examine how competitiveness analysis could be defined, integrated, and measured in the regulatory development process
to provide targeted advice to Health Canada on competitiveness issues identified in the Agri-food and Aquaculture Regulatory Review, including any observations on effective consultation and engagement mechanisms

Participants

Laura Jones (Chair)
Catherine Beaudry (June 25 only)
Stewart Elgie
Ginny Flood
Anne Fowlie
Don Mercer
Keith Mussar
Nancy Olewiler

Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat

Tina Green
Kyle Burns
Lindsay Wild
Brennen Young
Rob Turk
Claire Penny
Hélène Lowell
Allison Krogh

Chair’s opening remarks

The Chair welcomed Committee members and reviewed the agenda for the meeting.

Briefing on competitiveness in the regulatory framework

Tina Green, Assistant Secretary, Regulatory Affairs Sector, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat, described the government’s efforts to integrate economic considerations and competitiveness into its regulatory framework while ensuring that regulations continue to protect the health, safety, security, and social and economic well‑being of Canadians. Members were briefed on the government’s efforts to improve competitiveness and measure the impact of regulations on competitiveness, including cumulative burden. Members discussed possible competitiveness gaps, which prevent the government from better assessing, considering, and achieving regulatory competitiveness.

Perspectives on regulatory competitiveness

Members heard a variety of perspectives on regulatory competitiveness.

Mike Beale, retired Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Environment and Climate Change Canada, conveyed his broad experience with the Canadian regulatory system and in working constructively with stakeholders while advancing public policy objectives.
Christine Little, Assistant Deputy Minister, Ministry of Jobs, Trade and Technology, Government of British Columbia, discussed the B.C. government’s efforts to reduce red tape, which have led to a 50% reduction in the number of B.C. regulatory requirements since 1998.
Dr. Patrick McLaughlin, Director of Policy Analytics and a Senior Research Fellow at the Mercatus Center, George Mason University, shared his views on regulatory measurement in the context of improving competitiveness.
Kathleen Sullivan, Chief Executive Officer, Food and Beverage Canada, shared a private sector perspective on how industry and government can work together to advance both food safety protections and competitiveness.

Following the panel discussion, members discussed key take‑aways, including:

identifying opportunities to engage relevant parties early and often to facilitate dialogue throughout the development of regulations
investigating and considering experimentation with new available technologies to improve consultation
investigating the use of innovative approaches that allow for more intensive, interactive, multi‑party consultation for complex issues
examining best practices from other countries, as well as from provinces such as British Columbia, to develop broad-based metrics for a regulatory measurement program
exploring the use of machine-based text analysis and its potential for regulatory measurement
undertaking a mapping exercise to measure cumulative burden in one or more illustrative sectors in order to understand the aggregate net impact of federal, provincial, and international regulations and regulatory practices (for example, policy and guidance requirements) on that sector, including understanding the differences in burden on large, medium, and small businesses, as well as on consumers, where possible
developing a methodology for the ex-post analysis of regulations that are expected to impose $10 million or more in annual costs on business in order to assess both their effectiveness and their impact on competitiveness

Case study: Regulatory competitiveness and the Pest Control Products Act

Tyler Bjornson, President of the Canada Grains Council (CGC), and Jason Flint, Director General, Policy, Communications and Regulatory Affairs Directorate, Pest Management Regulatory Agency (PMRA), Health Canada, provided members with a stakeholder’s and a regulator’s perspective on regulatory competitiveness, respectively. Members discussed the key challenges for PMRA posed by its pesticides’ re-evaluation process.

How competitiveness analysis can be defined, integrated, and measured

Cary Coglianese, Edward B. Shils Professor of Law, and professor of political science at the University of Pennsylvania, and Craig Alexander, Partner and Chief Economist at Deloitte Canada, discussed challenges of measuring regulatory competitiveness. Key points raised included:

Limited data is available to measure competitiveness and cumulative burden
Limited data leads to perceptions that Canada is not doing well on regulatory competitiveness
Both benefits and costs should be taken into account when assessing regulations
Need to work with organizations such as Statistics Canada and the Organisation for Economic Co‑operation and Development to determine what data sets could be generated to enhance the understanding of regulatory competitiveness in Canada
Managing risk can be done in different ways. For example, sandboxes can be used to generate data on the effectiveness of new technologies within a safe environment. Both businesses and governments could benefit from this data

Next steps

In preparation for a follow-up meeting on July 22, 2019, members reflected on their interactions with guest speakers and discussed possible advice and observations. The following broad themes emerged:

the importance of measuring cumulative burden when assessing regulatory competitiveness
best practices for consultation, engagement and communication
competitiveness issues in pesticides regulations that may be relevant in other regulated areas